确保媒体的多样、独立与自由
是美国民主最重要的课题
─比尔?莫耶斯
（美国参议院） （退伍军人事务委员听证会，2006年）
继续今日退役军人补助的听证 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding...
退伍军人事委会被召回 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs...
is called back to order.
让我们听听下一位证人的说法 We'll hear from our next witness.
麻烦起立并举起右手 Will you please stand and raise your right hand?
我很抱歉 My apologies.
麻烦举起右手就好 Please raise your right hand.
你是否愿意向上帝发誓 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give...
你将在此发表的证词均属事实？ this committee will be the truth, the whole truth...
and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
我发誓 ﹣请说出你的名字 I do.
Please state your name.
亚当格林，退役美国陆军一等兵 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired.
格林先生，据说你准备了一份声明？ Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement?
是的 I have, sir.
这将会被列入纪录 You may enter it into the record at this time.
主席与各位委员 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee...
首先感谢给予我发言的机会 I want to thank you for the opportunity...
to speak with you today.
我服役… I served in the military f...
抱歉，能不能… I'm sorry, if I could just...
当然，请继续 Sure, go ahead.
谢谢你 Thank you, sir.
我一向很喜欢数字 I've always liked numbers.
当我的思绪难以汇整 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around...
数字让我看得更清晰 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me.
它能让我厘清事物的起因 They help me understand decisions that are made...
并理解事物的结果 and the impacts of those decisions.
因此我想从1百40万这个数字说起 So, if it's all right...
I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million.
这是目前我国从军的总人数 That's the number of men and women...
who are currently serving in our military.
而5百55 555...
则是我们遭到恐攻之后 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country...
转而入侵他国前所渡过的天数 after having been attacked by another.
19是我入伍的岁数 19... is how old I was when I enlisted.
3是我们降落伊拉克后 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time...
座车遭到炸毁前经过的时数 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport...
was destroyed by an I.E.D.
接着是6 And then there's six.
这是切断我脊髓的炮弹碎片的英吋数 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was...
that severed my spinal cord.
数字唯一的缺点是缺乏人性 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal.
但各位的决定却足以改变 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me...
我和这些军人们的一生 and a lot of soldiers like me.
我并非军事专家 Now, I'm not a military expert.
也对地缘政治不甚了解 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs.
我只是一个普通的美国人 I'm just an ordinary American.
我明白之所以能在此发言 And I understand that you've asked me here...
是因为你们有问题想问我 because you all have some questions for me,
但如果可以的话 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question.
我也想要问你们一个问题 但如果可以的话 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question.
到底为什么会发生这种事？ How the hell did this happen?
我的同胞们 My fellow citizens, at this hour...
此刻，美国与盟军 American and coalition forces are in the early stages...
正进行解除伊拉克武装的前期作业 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free...
为解放该国人民并守护世界安全 its people and to defend the world from grave danger.
（震撼真相） 此计划定名为“震慑行动” The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe.
震慑 ﹣震慑行动 Shock and Awe.
是的，震慑行动 - Shock and Awe. - Shock and Awe, indeed.
巴格达正解除空袭警报 Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad...
大规模推翻海珊的行动正式生效 The massive military operation...
美军共发射六百枚巡弋飞弹 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect.
Firing 600 Cruise missiles...
并出动战机 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal.
美军战力令人生畏 A fearsome display of American military might.
本次进攻规模可说是前所未见 The scale of this attack...
is considerably higher than anything we've seen before.
我方正以巡弋飞弹攻下建筑物 We're taking out whole buildings...
美国战机照计划大规模轰炸巴格达 with these Cruise missiles.
U.S. war planes unleashed...
to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad.
共三千枚战斧巡弋飞弹 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles...
卫星导引精密炸弹 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs.
以及雷射导引炸弹 I think the citizens of Baghdad know...
巴格达想必领教了震慑行动的攻势 以及雷射导引炸弹 I think the citizens of Baghdad know...
exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 巴格达想必领教了震慑行动的攻势
exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe.
在科威特与伊拉克边界 Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border...
我们看到大量军队进驻 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country.
他们前往巴格达但受到阻碍 They're well on their way to Baghdad.
我们一直关注着新闻 They have met resistance.
We can't leave the television...
那些坦克和直升机 every tank, every helicopter... is that my son?
眼下巴格达仅一步之遥 是否由我的儿子驾驶着？ Now Baghdad is within striking distance...
just a few short miles away... 眼下巴格达仅一步之遥
just a few short miles away...
美军正在进行最后攻坚 as U.S. troops make their final push forward.
我们要歼灭他们！ We want to slaughter them all...
这些入侵者必将命丧伊拉克！ those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq.
若海珊还活着 If Saddam Hussein is alive, he is quote...
他已经失去军事和政治控制权 "Not in control of his military and of his government."
这是接下来大规模行动的初步阶段 These are opening stages of what will be a broad...
and concerted campaign.
行动也许会比预期的更加漫长困难 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict.
帮助伊拉克建立一个团结、稳定 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable...
和自由的国度 and free country will require our sustained commitment.
需要我们不懈地努力 和自由的国度 and free country will require our sustained commitment.
一旦完成使命 And you can know that our forces will be coming home...
我们的军队便会凯旋归来 as soon as their work is done.
（本片改编自真实事件） 我们的军队便会凯旋归来 as soon as their work is done.
（本片改编自真实事件）
前进！继续前进 Keep moving! Keep moving! Let's go!
我们要被带去哪？ ﹣安静，低头 - Where are they taking us? - Shut up. Head down.
闭嘴，否则我就毙了你 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off.
知道了 ﹣你是军人吗？ - All right, all right. - Are you a soldier?
我是记者 ﹣哪家报社？ - Journalist. - Who do you work for?
奈特里德报业 ﹣没听过 - Knight Ridder. - Never heard of it.
你该多看点报纸 You should read more.
你叫什么名字？ What is your name?
强纳森兰德 Jonathan Landay.
再见，强纳森兰德 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
演练结束 Exercise complete.
你刚才经历的是“灰人”训练 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise.
（险境训练，马萨纳滕，维吉尼亚州） 刚才是一次极度失败的示范 And what you have just witnessed...
is a colossal failure of that exercise.
记者若是被挟持 If a journalist is captured...
恐怖分子可能会留你活口 terrorists may keep you alive...
并用你来交换资讯或赎金 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom.
但若你应变不当，他们会杀了你 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will.
这个训练将教你避免引起挟持者注意 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you...
how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors.
这便是所谓的“灰人” Hence the name, Gray Man.
你能帮我松绑吗？ Can you untie me?
这能保你一条小命，懂吗？ This could save your life one day, you understand?
废话！我去过十一个战区 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at...
我被枪击、被俘虏过 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously.
我很认真看待这一切 我被枪击、被俘虏过 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously.
但你不赶快帮我松绑的话 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job.
我工作就要不保了 但你不赶快帮我松绑的话 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job.
到时我沦落成了拖地工 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training...
is going to be very useful...
这些训练都没屁用 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples.
（第二架飞机撞击世贸中心）
（2001年9月11日） 今早，位于曼哈顿下城的… Both of the twin towers...
双子星大楼 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan...
在20分钟内相继遭飞机撞毁 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes.
北塔首先遭到撞击 First, it was the North Tower that was struck...
建筑物两侧被撞出一个大洞 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building.
天啊 ﹣20分钟后 Good God.
第二座大楼，即世贸中心南塔… 20 minutes later, the second building...
the second tower in that World Trade Center complex...
我们应该叫伊丽莎白留在学校 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school.
你说得对，别让她吓到 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea.
Why freak her out, huh?
有讯号后我马上打给艾里和珍妮佛 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up.
爱你 ﹣爱你 - I love you. - I love you.
好 Okay.
为您播报，我们已与五角大厦通话 We should tell you that...
we have gotten calls from people...
并由他们告知了现场的爆炸情况 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us...
that they have seen something...
that they have described as an explosion.
这是之前一直未能获得的消息 This is information we have not been able to confirm.
（哥伦布，乔治亚州）
起来了 Get up.
抱歉，爸 Sorry, Dad.
昨天足球赛拖得太晚 Monday Night Football went long.
把店里清干净 Let's clean this place up.
纽约世贸中心遭到飞机撞击 Trade Center here in New York...
have been hit by airplanes.
华盛顿五角大厦则发生大火 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon.
五角大厦人员已经撤离 The Pentagon has been evacuated.
您可以看到 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower...
第二座大楼、前塔正在崩塌 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing.
太可怕了 Good Lord.
今晚大家都需要喝一杯了 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight.
军人可以免费 Soldiers drink free.
现场情况难以描述 There are no words.
All federal office buildings now...
目前华盛顿联邦办公大楼均被净空 All federal office buildings now...
目前华盛顿联邦办公大楼均被净空
all federal office buildings in Washington, D.C. 目前华盛顿联邦办公大楼均被净空
are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 目前华盛顿联邦办公大楼均被净空
are being evacuated as we speak to you now.
我们正目睹一场浩劫 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe.
我们只能说，若您刚收看节目 The most important things to tell you if you just joined...
一场缜密骇人的恐怖攻击 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily..
well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York
今早发生在华盛顿及纽约 well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York
（奈特里德报业，华盛顿分社） 纽约世贸中心双子星大楼遭撞毁 has taken place this morning. 今早发生在华盛顿及纽约
（奈特里德报业，华盛顿分社） 纽约世贸中心双子星大楼遭撞毁 has taken place this morning.
The Trade Centers here in New York...
the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed...
after being hit by planes.
我是奈特里德报业的约翰沃科特 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder.
他在吗？ Is he there?
好，麻烦跟他说我晚点再打 Yeah, okay, well, tell him I'll try him back later.
谢谢 Thank you.
刚跟我老婆通电话 I just spoke with my wife.
她和孩子们都不敢出门 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house.
他们在那边做什么？ What are they doing over there?
他们在看白宫 They're watching the White House.
看会不会遭到袭击？ To see if it gets hit?
对 Yes.
老天，你快回家去吧 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family.
顺便提醒同事离窗户远一点 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away...
谢谢你，约翰 ﹣嗯 from the windows, okay?
- Thanks, John. - Yeah.
好，好的 Okay. All right. Okay.
好
目前研判是国际恐怖组织所为 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism...
并非国内的恐怖分子 not domestic.
当局锁定宾拉登，因其触角最广 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group...
because it has long tentacles.
很少其他组织能进行此等规模攻击 There are very few others that could have pulled this off.
我们要派人去纽约吗 Are we sending somebody to New York?
肯摩尔已经前往报导华尔街了 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street.
国务院那边如何？ What's going on over at State?
国务卿人在秘鲁 Powell's in Peru.
他们正想办法让他尽快回国 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible.
好，我们必须追踪总统的动态 All right, what we need to do is track the President.
锁定白宫上层，找出谁该为此负责 Track his top people and find out...
who's responsible for all this.
最好有更多线人和单位现身说法 We need as many sources at as many agencies...
证明我们目前的资讯全数属实 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true.
盖达组织！是盖达组织 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! It's Al Qaeda.
一定是盖达组织 It's definitely Al Qaeda.
你穿那什么鬼？ What the hell are you wearing?
呃，我老婆想逃难 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate...
把猫和钥匙都装车带走了 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars.
我只好骑脚踏车来 So, I biked in.
We need to know how they pulled this off.
我们要查清整件事情 We need to know how they pulled this off.
如果有人想回家的话 Anybody needs to go home to their family...
随时离开没问题 feel free to do so.
我刚从家里出来 Just came from the family.
上工了！ Let's get to work.
我是约翰沃科特 It's Walcott.
我们的同胞，我们的生活 我是约翰沃科特 It's Walcott.
就在今日 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 我们的同胞，我们的生活
以及我们的自由遭到攻击 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 我们的同胞，我们的生活
以及我们的自由遭到攻击 our very freedom, came under attack in a series...
是一连串蓄意且致命的恐攻 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts.
亚当，把酒给我 ﹣是 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please.
给你 ﹣谢了 Yes, sir. Here you go.
Thank you, son.
本店请客，各位 ﹣谢了 It's on the house, gentlemen.
爸说他们想待到多晚都行 Thanks.
Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want.
他们一定很害怕 They must be scared.
他们是军人 - They're Rangers. - They're boys.
他们只是孩子 他们是军人 - They're Rangers. - They're boys.
我们拥有强大的军队 Our military is powerful and it's prepared.
并已做好万全准备 我们拥有强大的军队 Our military is powerful and it's prepared.
我们已针对幕后黑手展开搜查 The search is underway for those...
who are behind these evil acts.
我已下令投入所有情报与执法资源 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence..
and law enforcement communities to find those responsible...
好将主事者绳之以法 and to bring them to justice.
距离恐攻发生已经33小时 It's been 33 hours since the terrible...
and unprecedented attack on the United States.
大规模搜救与调查行动 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue...
正在如火如荼地进行中 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation.
（2001年9月12日） 这只是灾难的开端 And we're just beginning to understand...
the extents of the catastrophe.
我累到仿佛整个月都没睡 I feel like I haven't slept in a month.
再这样下去大家都会累成僵尸 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town.
你知道追捕宾拉登的初步计划吗？ What do you know about the preliminary plans...
to go after bin Laden?
（国务院官员） 我目前无可奉告 I don't have anything to give you on that yet.
好吧，我军何时会前往阿富汗？ Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan...
预计在那里停留多久？ and how long do they project we'll be there?
听着，我也很想知道答案 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are.
但我只能说 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning...
今早会议内容并未提到阿富汗 hasn't been about Afghanistan.
那会议内容是什么？ Well, what's it been about?
伊拉克？ Iraq?
我国务院的线人从国防部得知的 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon.
跟恐攻有关吗？ In connection with the attacks?
这些人根本就在瞎扯淡 Crackpot theories from people who don't know...
是国防部长说的 what the hell they're talking about.
It was Rumsfeld.
真的？ ﹣对 Really?
显然国防部很多人认为该进攻伊拉克 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense...
that think this had to be State-sponsored.
不只是国防部长 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug...
一堆政策委员会的混蛋也是 不只是国防部长 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug...
还有那个“黑暗王子”？ son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 一堆政策委员会的混蛋也是
还有那个“黑暗王子”？ son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board...
理查裴尔 the Prince of Darkness?
就是他，还有那个保守派的 - Richard Perle. - Right. Perle.
…保守派的狗屁新美国计划 And that neo-con over at the Project...
for the New American whatever the fuck...
新美国世纪计划，比尔克里斯托 New American Century, Bill Kristol.
就是那个混帐东西，克里斯托 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol.
他的魔爪一定早就伸进来了 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this.
这些人从97年开始就想逼退海珊 Yeah, these think-tank boys...
have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97.
这些人天真地以为 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick...
若能让西方民主根植于中东 这些人天真地以为 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick...
a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 若能让西方民主根植于中东
中东就会奇蹟似地变成民主世界 it's going to magically proliferate... 若能让西方民主根植于中东
中东就会奇蹟似地变成民主世界 it's going to magically proliferate...
进而以色列就能受到保护 and wind up protecting Israel.
不得不佩服他们的天兵思想 You got to give them credit for creative thinking.
他们活在象牙塔里 It's Ivory Tower crap.
他们到底哪来的想法 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden...
觉得宾拉登和海珊联手？ and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together?
来查证这些混蛋是否真想栽赃伊拉克 Let's find out if these dickweeds...
are serious about Iraq, okay?
听着，我没说跟伊拉克有关 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq...
我老板也没说，这只是听说的 and neither is my boss.
谁说的？ This is just something we're hearing.
From whom?
（美国参议院助理） 你要问谁说的还是消息哪来的？ Who told me or where is it coming from?
你选一个答 Take your pick.
国防部的人 ﹣副总统那边呢？ Someone at the Pentagon.
In the Vice President's office?
这些都只是推测 It's just theories.
有参议员透漏新资讯吗？ Are there any Senators talking to anyone...
saying anything different?
国务卿反对攻打阿富汗以外的地方 I know Powell's objected...
to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan.
走开 Go away.
让我问一个问题就走 One question and I'm gone.
我不会公开发言 I'm not talking to you on the record.
来自中情局的匿名线报 Anonymous source, intelligence community.
不能说出我的名字 You can't use my name.
绝不会 Never have, never will.
不能透露我的单位 Or my agency.
我发誓 Pinky swear.
一个问题 One question.
你们是否认为伊拉克与恐攻有关？ Are you looking into an Iraqi connection?
你们指的是谁？ Who's the you in that question?
美国人吗？ Are we in the United States?
确实有些人这么想 There are some people.
我们单位的人吗？ Are we in my agency?
至少目前没听说 Not that I'm aware of.
我个人吗？ Am I, personally?
完全不 No way.
好，问题的的第二部份 ﹣不行 Okay, the second part to the question.
谢谢 No.
Thank you.
你在国会图书馆共事的人 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever...
也不曾指出海珊与盖达组织有关？ found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda?
（中东专家） 跟我共事的人并不这么认为 No one I work with would expect to find a link.
那么就你所知 So, as far as you know...
没有实证显示宾拉登与伊拉克有关？ there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden?
连间接线索都没有 There's nothing even circumstantial.
会将海珊这样世俗的领导者… To lump together a secular leader like Saddam...
与极端分子宾拉登联想在一起 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply...
就是完全不了解穆斯林世界 to have no understanding of the Muslim world.
这说法太温和了 It's a bit timid.
目前还没有人公开表态 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet.
这也只是揣测而已 Maybe it's just backroom speculation.
很危险的揣测 Pretty dangerous speculation.
找不到更有力的说法吗？ Can't we hit it harder than this?
恐攻也只是十天前的事 The attacks were just 10 days ago.
大家都在捕风捉影 Everyone's trying to play catch-up.
我们得发挥公信力 Got to press our reliables.
晚点我会联络“义大利小姐” I'll reach out to The Italian Lady.
你能取得露丝纽克的公开表态？ You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record?
刚好我跟她有很深的渊源 I'm lucky to get her on deep background.
加倍施展魅力是吧 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive.
日安，我是华恩史卓柏 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel.
我有个急迫的问题想请教 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter.
若您能尽早回覆就太感激了，谢谢 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience...
I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
您好 ﹣是，您好 Hello.
我是强纳森 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
我无可奉告 I don't have anything for you.
（国防专家） 我明白，但我正在做一则专题 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story...
有关政府对伊拉克的态度 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq.
强纳森，我无话可说 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this.
是，我明白 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this...
你也当我没问过 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
因为这是匿名访问 你也当我没问过 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
但你能给我一点提示吗？ 你也当我没问过 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
再见，强纳森 Bye, Jonathan.
她说了什么？ What'd she say?
寒暄一下而已 She sends her love.
全国各地国旗飘扬 Across the nation...
flags have been flying off the shelves.
爱国之心正波涛汹涌 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America.
我们此时此刻在做的 At times like this, it's what we do in America.
正是团结ㄧ致 We the People pull together.
学校今天在讨论美国有多棒 They had a discussion in school today...
about why America is so great, right?
是喔，你们说了什么呢？ about why America is so great, right?
对吧？ Yeah, and what'd you say? 是喔，你们说了什么呢？
对吧？ Yeah, and what'd you say?
这是一个自由国度 It's a free country.
很棒的答案！ That's a great answer.
好孩子 That's Mama's boy.
我可以走了吗？ May I be done now?
先抱一下 Not until I get a big hug.
先抱妈妈一下 Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
哇 Oh, whoa!
以你为傲，甜心 Proud of you, munchie.
爱你 Love you.
他们真的强力灌输国族主义呢 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school.
不然呢？接下来还有爱国主义 What do you expect?
Of course, there's going to be patriotism now.
Oh, you want to call it patriotism?
那叫爱国主义？好吧 Oh, you want to call it patriotism?
Fine. 那叫爱国主义？好吧
Fine.
对我来说就是国族主义 It smells a lot like nationalism to me.
南斯拉夫战争前就是这样 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war.
最终撕裂了我的国家 Tore my country apart.
需要帮忙吗？ You want some help?
不用，谢谢 No, I'm okay, thank you.
好吧，晚安 Okay, have a good night.
晚安 Good night.
伊拉克的论点有几分真实？ How real is the Iraqi conversation?
（行政官员） 正在争论当中 There's an argument taking place.
是吗？目前哪一方胜出 Yeah? Who's winning it?
我说不准 I couldn't say.
听着，我老板要把我送去阿富汗 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want..
我只想知道他该帮我买来回机票 to know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket...
或阿富汗只是前往巴格达的中继站？ or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad?
我无可奉告 I can't tell you anything.
我认为这次恐攻的主使者是一个国家 I believe major acts of terrorism...
against the U.S. are state-sponsored.
因此我们必须检视 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind...
能操作这起人类史上最惨烈攻击的 因此我们必须检视 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind...
the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 能操作这起人类史上最惨烈攻击的
究竟是哪个国家？ "which state?" 能操作这起人类史上最惨烈攻击的
究竟是哪个国家？ "which state?"
我认为伊拉克是最明显的答案 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind.
越来越多政府官员赞同此想法… This is an idea which in...
is gaining increased credibility.
奈特里德报业，华恩史卓柏 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
（前美国政府官员） 吉姆伍尔西将前往欧洲调查 Jim Woolsey is going to Europe...
海珊与93年世贸中心爆炸案 to try to find a link between Saddam...
两者之间是否有关联 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
他是接受委托的吗？ Is he freelancing?
美国政府派他去的 He was sent on an official government jet.
天啊，哪个人指派的？ Jesus, who sent him?
国防部副部长 The deputy defense secretary.
要喝杯咖啡吗？ Can you meet for coffee?
（国防副部长） ﹣保持联系 I'll be in touch.
我是奈特里德报业的华恩史卓柏 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder.
我正在追查前中央情报总监… I'm working on a story...
吉姆伍尔西被派往欧洲一事 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe.
你对此有任何了解吗？ Do you know anything about that?
我不知道 I didn't have anything to do with that.
（美国外交官） 此事与我无关 我不知道 I didn't have anything to do with that.
但你很清楚确有其事？ But you're aware that such a trip has taken place?
我不能…你可以去问其他人 I can't be your only source on this.
好吧，保持联系 All right, stay in touch.
嘿，约翰 Hey, John.
伍尔西被派到欧洲 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence...
调查海珊跟93年爆炸案的关联 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93.
任务要成功就不该派个蠢材去 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool.
是义大利小姐说的吗？ This came from The Italian Lady?
还有个外交官可以证实 And a diplomat who can confirm...
是国防部副部长安排的 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz.
国防部到底在干什么 What the hell is going on over at Defense?
问题应该是 Question is, are they trying to figure out...
此行他们是想证实自己的推论 if there's any truth to their theory...
还是他们早已确信推论属实？ or are they already convinced their theory is true?
你确定伍尔西真的去了？ ﹣确定 You're sure about this Woolsey trip?
你有第三条线报吗？ ﹣有 - Positive. - You have a third source?
来自谁？ - Yeah. - Who?
吉姆伍尔西本人 Jim Woolsey.
我是约翰沃科特 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip?
想出勤吗？ 我是约翰沃科特 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip?
想出勤吗？
我就知道你会打来 I figured you'd be calling...
但我没想到是这么快 I just didn't think it would be this soon.
（情报分析师） 但我没想到是这么快 I just didn't think it would be this soon.
（情报分析师）
伊拉克的论点有几分真实性？ How real is the chatter about Iraq?
真实性非常高 Very.
真正发动恐攻的人却被我们忘了 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us.
多久后伊拉克会成为攻打目标？ How soon before Iraq becomes the focus?
我们就是想打仗 We need to blow something up.
但光打阿富汗没意思 Not enough targets in Afghanistan.
那宾拉登呢？ What about bin Laden?
一旦拿下宾拉登，仗就不用再打了 You take out bin Laden...
interest in the war goes right down the shitter.
这是进攻托拉波拉的第六天 A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora...
宾拉登被怀疑藏身此处 bin Laden's suspected hideout...
但依旧没有他的踪迹 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man.
美国B52从空中轰炸盖达组织基地 U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda positions from the air...
反塔利班联盟此时也遭到反击 while anti-Taliban tanks...
and troops meet strong resistance...
盖达组织战力十足 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters.
关于宾拉登尚有更多后续报导 With yet more conflicting reports...
on bin Laden's whereabouts.
（伊朗、伊拉克、北韩，邪恶轴心）
有什么进度？ What you got there... （伊朗、伊拉克、北韩，邪恶轴心）
有什么进度？ What you got there...
那是明天的国情咨文报导吗 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow?
对 ﹣吃午餐了吗？ - Yup. - You got a lunch today?
不能跟你一起吃 Not with you.
我跟国务院的鲁尼图恩有约 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State.
看来有料了 There's a dry hole.
我想说让他降低戒心 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on...
也许就会意外透露些有用的讯息 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy.
替我向他问好 ﹣好 Yeah, well, give my best.
热腾腾的报导，贝瑞 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl.
你有用标点符号吗？ Did you use punctuation this time?
为了你我连分号都用上了 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you.
你一定是密苏里大学的骄傲 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri.
曾占领阿富汗的恐怖分子 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan...
（国情咨文，2002年1月29日） 现已被押入关塔那摩监狱 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay.
那些鼓吹别人牺牲的领导者 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice...
眼下正为了保命而奔逃 their lives are running' for their own.
政府当前首要任务 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own...
（国务院官员） 除了保障我国安全之外 政府当前首要任务 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own...
也想确保其他渴望民主的国家 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... （国务院官员） 除了保障我国安全之外
也想确保其他渴望民主的国家 security is to ensure freedom for other countries...
都能享有自由的生活 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life.
我们…抱歉 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't...
虽然我们不是世界警察 我们…抱歉 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't...
be the policemen to the world... 虽然我们不是世界警察
be the policemen to the world...
但我们仍觉得有责任要… but we feel we have a responsibility to...
我是约翰沃科特 Yeah, John Walcott.
约翰 John!
狄克西？ Dixie?
约翰，你听得到吗？ John, can you hear me?
有，听得到 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
（美国军事情报员） 我今天接到部队弟兄的电话 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today...
问我到底发生什么事了 asking me what the fuck's going on.
你还在阿富汗吗？ Are you still in Afghanistan?
对，我在阿富汗 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
但没人知道任务到底是什么 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore.
到底要怎么炸毁一个国家 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age...
如果它本身就已经毁了？ that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age?
我们的第二个目标 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror...
是阻止发起恐攻的政权 我们的第二个目标 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror...
以大规模毁灭性武器 from threatening America, or our friends and allies...
威胁美国和美国的盟友 with weapons of mass destruction.
我们认为阿富汗能成为自由国家 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom.
多年来他们一直试图摆脱塔利班牵制 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free...
itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years.
我们本来在抓宾拉登 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets.
他们却转移了我们的资源 我们本来在抓宾拉登 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets.
这下子可能永远抓不到他了 We may never get him in our crosshairs again.
什么？等等 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where?
他们把资源转移到哪去了？ 什么？等等 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where?
许多恐怖政权自911后保持低调 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since...
September the 11th, but we know their true nature.
但我们清楚他们的真面目 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind...
这个国家极需法治来保持稳定 但我们清楚他们的真面目 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind...
这个国家极需法治来保持稳定
of stability that comes with the rule of law. 这个国家极需法治来保持稳定
of stability that comes with the rule of law.
北韩、伊朗、伊拉克 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these...
这些国家和他们的恐怖盟友 北韩、伊朗、伊拉克 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these...
and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 这些国家和他们的恐怖盟友
and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil...
组成了“邪恶轴心” and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil...
透过武装来威胁世界和平 arming to threaten the peace of the world.
我该走了，华恩 You'll have to excuse me...
我得准备去向国务卿作简报 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell.
好 Sure.
还有其他问题吗 Anything else you need from me?
没有了，谢谢 No, no, thank you.
你给了我颇多耐人寻味的线索 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on.
那就好 Excellent.
你认为阿富汗会接受西式民主吗 And you feel confident that Afghanistan...
will accept a Western-style democracy?
那当然 Oh, absolutely.
我们对伊拉克的事也一样肯定 Just as confident as we are about Iraq.
Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious.
看来伊拉克的争议越来越严重了 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious.
不，没有争议，海珊必须下台 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over.
唯一的问题是如何让他下台 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how.
很高兴和你聊天，华恩 Good talking to you, Warren.
我也是 Yeah, you, too, sir.
总统要攻打伊拉克 The president is going to invade Iraq.
鲁尼图恩说的？ You got this from Looney Tunes?
对，有位外交官也证实了 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met...
他跟布希谈过 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with...
还有位外国官员离境前说 他跟布希谈过 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with...
还有位外国官员离境前说
感觉已做了攻打伊拉克的决定 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 还有位外国官员离境前说
感觉已做了攻打伊拉克的决定 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq."
这些材料够写一则报导吗？ Do you think we can get enough to run the story?
算你衰，我认为够了 Unfortunately, I do.
（托拉波拉，阿富汗）
只好先停战了 So much for the ceasefire.
对，暂时停火我们也松一口气 Yeah, well, really nice of us...
to temporarily stop shooting at them, though.
我被拒绝、被打击 ? I've been bound up and wound up ?
完全说不出话 ? Could barely get a sound up ?
我被欺骗、被辜负 ? Been cheated mistreated ?
不愿再回想 ? Don't even want to think of it ?
你在打什么算盘，史马克？ What are you up to, Smucker?
我今天试着和你的翻译聊天 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today.
是喔，然后呢？ Yeah, how'd that go?
对一个靠说话来谋生的来说 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living...
他话少得不正常 he was unusually quiet.
他只跟我说话 He only talks to me.
是吗？他跟你说了什么 Really? And what'd he tell you?
付钱才准你看 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it.
给我看 Let me see it.
宾拉登跑了，是吧？ bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
他们没抓到，对吗？ They missed him, didn't they?
他人就在这，却让他跑了 He was here and they fucking missed him!
一位资深美军官员告诉本台 A senior U.S. military official...
我方虽在托拉波拉攻陷盖达基地 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat...
"of Al Qaeda forces at Tora Bora...
但宾拉登据信已逃往巴基斯坦 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped...
"across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge...
躲在一个被军阀占领的蛮夷之地 "in a lawless no man's land...
"ruled by renegade tribal warlords."
天啊，真的来了 Oh, it's official...
这真是我做过最可悲的事 this is the saddest event I've ever attended.
我要回到公寓去喝个两杯 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine...
然后把头塞进烤箱里 and put my head in the oven.
在你这么做之前 Okay, but before you do that...
先见见那个我跟你说的人 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about.
他正好来了！ Oh! He just walked in!
不喝酒了，我直接自杀吧 Forget the wine, I'll kill myself now.
不是他 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you.
是他 不是他 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you.
我来介绍 Pam, please don't.
华恩，嘿！ ﹣嗨 我来介绍 Pam, please don't.
潘，拜托不要 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi. 华恩，嘿！ ﹣嗨
潘，拜托不要 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi.
很高兴你赶上了，快过来 Glad you could make it, come on over.
华恩，这是我朋友丽莎梅尔 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
丽莎，这是华恩史卓柏 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist...
他是一位记者 and I'm gonna get another drink.
我要再去拿一杯酒 他是一位记者 and I'm gonna get another drink.
我要再去拿一杯酒
你好，丽莎 ﹣你好 Hi, uh, Lisa?
很高兴认识你 ﹣嗨 - Yeah. - Yeah, nice to meet you.
- Hi. - Uh...
后来你有成功进家门吗 Did you ever make it into your apartment?
Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
喔，对！不是 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
抱歉，有，我成功回家了 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good.
很好 ﹣是啊 抱歉，有，我成功回家了 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good.
你是记者？ So, you're a journalist?
对，奈特里德集团 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
是杂志还是报纸？ Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper?
是旗下有三十一种报纸的集团 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually.
我的报导会发给每一种报纸 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers...
他们有权决定刊登与否 and each one has the option to publish or not.
原来如此 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked.
我一直搞不懂那些运作模式 原来如此 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked.
是啊 Yeah.
那个，我二十二岁就结婚了 Hey, I got married when I was 22.
最近才离婚，所以… And we're only recently separated, so...
我现在有点尴尬 This is a little awkward for me.
没差 ﹣我对这些事很生疏 It's okay.
I'm a little out of practice.
不如你问我几个问题？ Why don't you start by asking me a question?
好啊 Sure, yeah.
你是共和党还是民主党？ Are you a Republican or a Democrat?
再加把劲 Try again.
她当然希望你打给她 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her.
她都给你名片了 She gave you her card.
说不定她只是想累积人脉 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business.
在情人节的单身联谊会上？ At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day?
所以呢，打给她吗？ What? So, call her? I should call her?
什么？不用啊 所以呢，打给她吗？ What? So, call her? I should call her?
什么？不用啊
我该打给她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 什么？不用啊
我该打给她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle.
轻熟女最喜欢男人慢慢来了 我该打给她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle.
让她等着好了啊 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 轻熟女最喜欢男人慢慢来了
than a guy who takes his time. 轻熟女最喜欢男人慢慢来了
我没事，亚瑟 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 轻熟女最喜欢男人慢慢来了
我没事，亚瑟 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
我只是有点厌倦每天早上拿到报纸 It's just that I'm getting a little tired...
of picking up your paper every morning...
就看到你又没有用我们的报导 and seeing that you're not running our stories.
我特地确认了一下 I mean, last time I looked...
《费城询问报》隶属奈特里德 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right?
重点是，你一直不使用集团的报导 《费城询问报》隶属奈特里德 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right?
对吧？ The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 重点是，你一直不使用集团的报导
对吧？ The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper..
身为集团的一份子又有什么意义？ if you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories.
约翰，我们讨论过很多次了 John, we've been through this already.
你的报导跟我们的方向不符 Your stories don't fit...
in with what we're doing over here right now.
不符？跟什么不符 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth?
跟真相不符吗？ What's the matter, Arthur...
你是怎么回事，亚瑟 跟真相不符吗？ What's the matter, Arthur...
报纸都不报真相了吗 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore?
今天，政府首度 And today, for the first time...
（2002年3月） 提供了细节 the administration provided...
有关海珊与盖达组织间的关联 details for what it has always insisted was a connection...
between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
此事有几分真实？ How strong is that case?
伊拉克总统海珊表示 Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says...
他并未持有非法大规模毁灭性武器 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction...
并指责美国以此为藉口发动战争 and accused the United States of using weapons...
as a pretext to start a war.
盖洛威先生 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book?
这部片有多贴近你的原着？ 盖洛威先生 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book?
80%算精确，20%是狗屁 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit...
以好莱坞标准来说算成功改编 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment.
此书的灵感来自哪里？ What inspired you to write the book?
我被北越军队枪击的经验 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army.
实际经历越战和在大银幕观看 What was the biggest difference between experiencing...
the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater?
最大的不同在哪？ the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater?
越南的爆米花比较咸 The popcorn in Ia Drang was saltier.
最后一个问题 Last question.
能比较一下当年的越南 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam...
和现今的阿富汗吗？ and what's happening today in Afghanistan?
两者有很大的不同 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate...
但我认为在我们再次开战前 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard...
应该要认真回想越战的教训 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam.
什么教训？ Which is?
政府搞砸，却让军人来付出代价 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price.
什么风把你吹来了？ To what do I owe this unexpected visit?
我想要世界知名的战地记者签名 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph...
from the world's most famous war correspondent.
我最讨厌这个环节了 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story.
记者不该成为报导的一部分 我最讨厌这个环节了 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story.
记者不该成为报导的一部分
记者也不该获颁铜星勋章 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 记者不该成为报导的一部分
记者也不该获颁铜星勋章 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either.
你的公职生涯如何？ How do you like the job at State?
我喜欢和国务卿共事 I love working for General Powell...
但讨厌替政府工作 and I hate working for Uncle Sam.
你怀念干记者的日子？ You miss reporting?
干了42年我也是该放手了 After 42 years, I thought...
9月10日我开始在国务院工作 I should take some time away from it.
So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th...
隔天却出了这么一条大新闻 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke.
只能说人算不如天算 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug.
我们正在追查一件大事 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here.
这也是我来的原因 我们正在追查一件大事 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here.
来让我羡慕的吗？ To make me envious?
来给你个工作 To make you an offer.
若他拿到大规模毁灭性武器，杰瑞 If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry.
这对世界来说意味着什么？ What does that mean for the world?
对中东又意味着什么？ What does that mean for the Middle East?
可以关掉吗 - Can you turn it down? - I'm trying to watch the news.
什么狗屁新闻 我正在看新闻 Stop calling it that.
儿子 Hey, son.
亚当，怎么了？ Adam, what's the matter?
我参加了招募 I met with a recruiter.
A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry.
你知道签了志愿役就不能反悔吗？ You know once you sign up...
there's no changing your mind, right?
知道 I know.
你怎么知道？你只是孩子 What do you know? You're just a kid.
我们的国家被攻击 Whose country was attacked.
亚当，我知道你想做对的事 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right...
但战争不是打电动 but war is not a video game.
你根本不知道要面对的是什么 You have no idea what you're getting into.
我很清楚我面对的是什么 I know exactly what I'm getting into.
过来 Here.
指给我看阿富汗在地图的哪里 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map.
指给我看 Show me.
他们会把你送到世界的另一端 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight...
去跟你根本不认识的人打仗 people you didn't even know existed a year ago.
若你真的明白 If you know what you're getting into...
先指给我看阿富汗在哪里 show me where Afghanistan is on this map.
有人也曾把地图放在爸面前 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face...
叫爸指出越南在哪里吗？ and ask him to find Vietnam?
我们知道 We now know that Saddam has resumed...
海珊正不遗余力试图取得核武 我们知道 We now know that Saddam has resumed...
his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 海珊正不遗余力试图取得核武
his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons.
（海外作战退伍军人协会） 在诸多消息来源中 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand...
（全国代表大会 2002年8月） 这是来自叛逃者证词的第一手资讯 testimony from defectors.
许多人相信海珊很快会取得核武 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein...
will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon.
简而言之 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein...
海珊现在拥有大规模毁灭性武器 简而言之 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein...
海珊现在拥有大规模毁灭性武器
now has weapons of mass destruction. 海珊现在拥有大规模毁灭性武器
now has weapons of mass destruction.
又在天花乱坠地扯伊拉克的事了 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq.
让我们看看能否踢爆这一切 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay?
取得公开表态的人赢二十块 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote.
才不要，你超幼稚 No, no, no, you're such a child.
你小孬孬 You're such a pussy.
我才不拿你的钱 I'm not taking your money.
输了你也会硬拗 You get all bent out of shape when you lose.
哪会，输赢对我来说都一样 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose.
我不要，这有啥好赌的 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine.
华恩史卓柏要找参议员拜登，谢谢 我不要，这有啥好赌的 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine.
好啦，随便 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 华恩史卓柏要找参议员拜登，谢谢
你这家伙！ Son of a bitch. 华恩史卓柏要找参议员拜登，谢谢
你这家伙！ Son of a bitch.
拜登跟布希说 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go...
“老布希不占领巴格达…” 拜登跟布希说 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go...
“是因为他深知驻军时间会太长” "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... “老布希不占领巴格达…”
“是因为他深知驻军时间会太长” "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay...
"for at least five years."
布鲁金斯智库的迈克欧汉隆说 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying...
“这绝不会是件容易事” "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk."
得比这个更有煽动力才行 We gotta hit it harder than that.
好吧，等等 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N...
还有个联合国官员说 好吧，等等 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N...
还有个联合国官员说
“人们普遍担心这将颠覆中东世界” that says, "There's widespread concern... 还有个联合国官员说
“人们普遍担心这将颠覆中东世界” that says, "There's widespread concern...
"that this will destabilize the whole Middle East."
让我看看你还有什么料 Let me see what you have.
等等…我还有… ﹣我有… Well, wait, I got... I got...
给我，快给我 Just give it to me, give, give, give.
好啦 ﹣好 Okay.
All right.
来看看 Let's see here... all right.
很好 来看看 Let's see here... all right.
很好
好
你们很聪明 You guys are smart.
都知道要戳破的是什么 You know what's unfolding here.
我们的读者也该知道真相 Our readers need to know what we've learned.
“最好的情况是” "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq...
“美国军队将驻守伊拉克多年” “最好的情况是” "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq...
“试图向中东世界散布西方民主” "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... “美国军队将驻守伊拉克多年”
“试图向中东世界散布西方民主” "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy...
"to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case...
“最糟的情况则是” "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
“入侵伊拉克将导致他们四分五裂” “最糟的情况则是” "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
"groups to break off into their own mini-states... “入侵伊拉克将导致他们四分五裂”
“并让美军长期困在血腥内战之中” "trapping American combat forces in the middle... “入侵伊拉克将导致他们四分五裂”
“并让美军长期困在血腥内战之中” "trapping American combat forces in the middle...
"of a bloody civil war for decades."
老板很有胆识 Boss man's got balls.
是啊 Yeah.
看着办吧
好 Shit.
该死 好 Shit.
那是给我的吗？ Were those for me?
不是…是 No. Yes.
但我觉得有点…不知道 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know...
有点太早开始送礼了 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts.
我觉得没差啊 It would've been all right.
我想花应该掉到车上了 Okay.
Well, I think they landed on my car...
去捡起来顺便吃晚餐好吗？ so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner...
maybe we can do that?
好啊 ﹣太好了 - Great. - Great.
你为了准备今晚的约会 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing...
做了最糗的事是什么？ you did to prepare for tonight?
好吧，我先说 All right.
为了准备今晚的约会 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight...
我恶补了一下伊拉克史 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq...
了解一下穆斯林世界 and the history of the Muslim world.
真假？ ﹣真的 Really?
现在我知道1400年前 Yes.
穆罕默德死后 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad...
穆斯林为了继承人而争执 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir...
导致他们分为两派，逊尼派和什叶派 and that caused a split into two factions...
自此他们一直处于战争状态 the Sunnis and the Shiites.
一次世界大战之后 And they've been at war ever since.
英法瓜分中东世界 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French...
arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries...
并扶持逊尼派壮大 putting the Sunni majority in charge.
但伊拉克其实只有20%是逊尼派 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni.
逊尼派的海珊 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules...
以铁腕统治占多数的什叶派人民 逊尼派的海珊 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules...
the majority Shiite population... 以铁腕统治占多数的什叶派人民
和其他20%北方的库德族 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 以铁腕统治占多数的什叶派人民
和其他20%北方的库德族 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq.
但海珊若是倒台了 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly...
1400年前的教派战争又会重燃 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war.
读了你的报导之后 Now, after reading your stories...
我知道伊朗才是恐怖主义国家 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
不是伊拉克 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist...
还有那个叫查拉比的骗徒 不是伊拉克 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist...
似乎是想取代海珊的位置 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein.
布希政府里的新保守主义分子 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration...
也正在鼓吹进军伊拉克 are pushing for an invasion.
你迅速地成为了我最爱的记者 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer.
哇喔 Wow.
Um... I guess it's my turn.
换我说了吗 Give it to me.
好吧，我承认 换我说了吗 Give it to me.
说来听听 Okay, I will admit that... 好吧，我承认
说来听听 Okay, I will admit that...
真的有点难以启齿 This is a little embarrassing.
我请前妻今晚帮忙照顾孩子们 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight.
这哪里糗 Why is that embarrassing?
因为照理说我应该傍晚就回到家 Because a babysitter would expect me home...
at the end of the evening and...
不如我们去结帐吧？ Should we get the check?
告诉你老板 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not!
无论他说什么我们都会报导 告诉你老板 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not!
说对了，这攸关生死！ Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death!
这是他妈的战争！ We're talking about going to fucking war!
喂？ Hello?
我猜是不予置评？ I'm guessing that was a no comment?
你笑什么？ What are you grinning about?
我没有在笑啊 What? I'm not grinning.
明明就有 - You're grinning. - I'm not grinning.
我真的没有在笑 ﹣你在看什么？ - I'm not... - What have you got over there?
冷静啦，不用你管 我真的没有在笑 ﹣你在看什么？ - I'm not... - What have you got over there?
冷静啦，不用你管
你不准… Relax! Don't worry about it. 冷静啦，不用你管
你不准… Relax! Don't worry about it.
哇靠，她我可以 Oh my God, she could do my taxes.
好啦，别激动 All right, relax.
你好，我是华恩 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course.
原来如此 你好，我是华恩 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course.
好的 Okay.
好，我会到 All right, I'll be right there.
走吧，可能有搞头 Let's go, this could be something.
所以要怎么做？ So, how does this work?
你们会问我问题 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking?
还是我自己开始讲？ 你们会问我问题 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking?
不如你先开始讲 Why don't you just begin...
我们有问题再问你 and we'll ask the questions when we have them.
我必须先声明这是匿名的，对吧 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right?
你想匿名吗？ Do you want it to be off the record?
我要人们知道我所知道的 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am.
他们不必知道我这个人 It'll be background.
只会被列为背景资讯 他们不必知道我这个人 It'll be background.
你会被指称为美国政府官员 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official.
告诉我们你想爆的料吧 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us.
我相信你们的预测是对的 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen...
如果我们真的开战的话 if we go to war is spot on.
或许比你们想的更严重 And we're a lot closer than you think.
多严重？ How close?
一个秘密战略小组已经成立 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence...
是个独立于其他组织的情报单位 operation has been set up to bypass...
the rest of the intelligence community.
你怎么知道的？ How do you know this?
他们在我工作的大楼里碰面 They meet in the building where I work.
哪一栋大楼？ And which building is that?
有五个角的那一栋 The one with the five sides.
你是这个秘密组织的一员？ But you're not a part of that unit?
不是 No.
那你是怎么知道的？ So, how do you know about this?
我的桌子正对着大厅 My desk is across the hall.
你在哪个单位工作？ What office do you work for?
近东南亚事务部门 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that.
但你不能公开 近东南亚事务部门 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that.
你是分析师？ ﹣对 You're an analyst?
这也不能公开 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either.
我告诉你们内情，因为我是美国公民 I'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen...
而我不喜欢我所目睹的黑幕 and I don't like what these people are doing.
大约有六人，多半从未从军 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served...
只凭一些劣质情资做决策 in the military are making decisions...
based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions...
这些决策却会影响无数军人 will impact our men and women in uniform.
身为曾经从军的人 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent.
我不能保持沉默 身为曾经从军的人 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent.
你提到劣质的情资 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that?
是指什么？ 你提到劣质的情资 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that?
他们发展了一套流程 They've designed a process that doesn't conform...
完全不符合情资搜集标准 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering.
怎样不符合？ In what way?
他们先做决策 A decision is made, then the intelligence...
再找出符合决策的情报来背书 is sought to support that decision.
你怎么知道？ How do you know this?
他们对讲阿拉伯语的人没兴趣 They have no interest in Arabic speakers.
以色列人不用证件就能进来 Israelis come in without passes...
甚至不会被列入安检纪录 without even being entered into a security log.
政府多年来都在资助一批被称为 And for years the government has been funding a group...
“伊拉克国民大会”的异议人士 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress.
由查拉比领导，我们知道 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
政府想让他来掌权 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq.
对，我们一直想跟他见面 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him.
你知道是谁布署这次行动的吗？ Do you know who set up this operation?
国防部长唐纳德伦斯斐 Donald Rumsfeld.
是否有任何证据能表明… Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq...
伊拉克试图或有意提供恐怖分子 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists...
（2002年10月） …大规模毁灭性武器？ with weapons of mass destruction?
空穴来风的报导总是很有趣 The reports that say that something hasn't happened...
are always interesting to me because as we know...
因为众所周知 are always interesting to me because as we know...
有些事是已知的事实 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know.
我们知道自己所掌握的资讯 有些事是已知的事实 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know.
而有些事则是已知的未知 We also know there are known unknowns.
意思就是 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know.
我们知道还有这些未知 意思就是 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know.
但也有些事是未知的未知 But there are also unknown unknowns.
我们根本不知道自己不知道 The one's we don't know we don't know.
我们推断政府已决定开战 We're working on a theory that the administration...
并正试图合理化这个决策 has already decided to go to war...
and is now focused on how to justify it.
（美国情资官员） 这不是推断 It's not a theory.
有多名线人向我们踢爆 We've also been told by a number of individuals that...
伦斯斐负责指挥情资搜集 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering.
那称不上是情资搜集 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering.
比较像是选择性取用情资 It's more like intelligence cherry picking.
如果没找到可用的情资 And if they don't find any cherries...
他们就随便找些狗屁来搪塞 they just grab a piece of shit...
加油添醋一下，就把那称之为情资 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple.
你似乎很肚烂 You seem irritated.
我得帮他们找出不存在的武器 I'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist...
用来合理化一场不智的战争 to justify a war that might not be wise.
你有找到大规模杀伤性武器吗 And have you found any evidence of WMD?
没有 No, sir.
那海珊有发展核武吗 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right?
有啊，我还搞过翘臀珍咧 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
但我们都知道根本没这回事 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen.
我们不会揭露你的身分 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote?
但可以引用你说的话吗 我们不会揭露你的身分 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote?
当然 Sure.
你有找到任何证据能佐证 Have you found anything to support the administration's...
海珊即将或已持有核武吗？ theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons?
我们找遍伊拉克的山洞 We've searched every cave...
连骆驼的屁眼都检查了 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq.
这句让你引用 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way."
“没有他妈的证据” 这句让你引用 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way."
“没有他妈的证据”
我会美化一下句子 Might have to clean that up a bit.
很生动 Quite colorful, though.
老婆，有人偷了我们的纽约时报 Uh, honey, I think someone...
is stealing our New York Times.
我取消订阅了 I canceled it.
为什么？ Why would you do that?
内容都在洗脑 It's propaganda.
我工作需要读 I need that for my work.
里面尽是白宫、国务院 It's packaging press releases from the White House...
和国防部的新闻稿 the State Department, and the Pentagon.
那根本不叫报纸 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper.
你今天如何？ How was your day?
我跟华恩采访了一个情报单位的人 Warren and I met with some gentleman...
他证实了完全没有证据 from the intelligence community who confirmed that...
there's no real evidence to support...
能证明政府说的大规模毁灭武器 the administration's claim on WMD.
我就说吧 What have I been telling you?
真可惜 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source.
你的直觉不能当作一条线报 真可惜 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source.
你的直觉不能当作一条线报
这就是政府在做的事 You know, this is what they do. They lie.
谎话连篇 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable.
是啊，我们试图让他们负责 谎话连篇 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable.
是啊，我们试图让他们负责
多希望我想错了，真的希望 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do.
但布希政府不在乎真相 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth.
他们甚至没有回应你的报导 They don't even respond to your articles.
他们想打仗就真的会去打 If they want a war, they're gonna get one.
无论你或是宪法 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment...
都无法阻止他们 is gonna do to stop them.
（高官忧心缺乏伊拉克武器实证）
鬼扯鬼扯，看看这些 Extra, extra, read all about it.
（美国认为海珊加速制造核武）
“过去十四个月” "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands...
“伊拉克试图购入数以千计…” “过去十四个月” "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands...
“特殊设计的铝管” "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... “伊拉克试图购入数以千计…”
“特殊设计的铝管” "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American...
“美国政府认定此为” "officials believe were intended as components...
“用于浓缩铀的离心机组件” "of centrifuges to enrich uranium."
有一件能肯定的事 Well, one thing's for sure.
什么事？ What's that?
我们两方的报导矛盾 We can't both be right.
你要打给谁？ Who're you calling?
露丝纽克 Loose Nukes.
若她连进攻伊拉克的事都不说 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq...
又怎可能跟你说武器的事？ what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD?
魅力攻势 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son.
学着点，小老弟 魅力攻势 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son.
学着点，小老弟
强纳森 Landay.
乔盖洛威来了 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow.
天啊 乔盖洛威来了 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow.
他连走路都闪着铜星勋章 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star.
你好 Hello.
嗨，我是强纳森兰德 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
你好，强纳森 ﹣嗨 Hello, Jonathan.
Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh?
天气超差的，对吧 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh?
你打来讨论天气的？ You're calling me to chat about the weather?
不是，好吧 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD.
其实我想问你武器的事 不是，好吧 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD.
绝不会透漏你的资讯 It'll be deep, deep background.
再见，强纳森 Goodbye, Jonathan.
等等，别挂断 No wait, don't hang up.
看来你的魅力攻势很鸟 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable.
听着，我们需要你 Listen, we need you here.
多年来你掌握的许多消息来源 You've developed sources over the years that have access...
都是强纳森和华恩无法触及的 that Landay and Strobel just can't get.
我会让你轻松点 I'll make it easy on you.
我给你一个专栏 I'll give you a column...
你的名字完全不用出现 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else.
但你可以写任何东西 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can...
当然你因此无法享有名誉… and of course, there won't be any glory, but...
名誉是年轻人追求的玩意 Glory's for young men.
让我想想 Let me percolate on it.
现在来谈谈伊拉克 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq.
你曾说它对美国构成致命威胁 You have said that it poses...
a mortal threat to the United States.
什么样的威胁？ How? Define "mortal threat."
致命威胁又是指什么？ 什么样的威胁？ How? Define "mortal threat."
解释起来有点长 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us... 致命威胁又是指什么？
解释起来有点长 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us...
但这对我们来说很重要 as I mentioned earlier...
如之前所说，世界已经改变 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to...
911之前… I'd forgotten the world had changed.
我都忘了世界变了 911之前… I'd forgotten the world had changed.
我也是，真高兴他提起 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that.
海珊确切持有了什么… What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe...
让你认定他正发展核武？ would enhance his nuclear development program?
要制造核武 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena...
得先准备铝管 you've got specifically aluminum tubes.
纽约时报今早有报导 There's a story in The New York Times this morning...
这归功于纽约时报 this is and I want to attribute to The Times.
我不想谈特定情报 I don't want to talk about, obviously...
specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that...
但这现已是公开事实 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been...
海珊一直试图发展核武 但这现已是公开事实 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been...
我们能阻止他取得材料 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring...
through this particular channel...
即是用于离心机的铝管 the kinds of tubes that are necessary...
to build a centrifuge.
离心机需采用低等级铀 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium...
并将其提升为高浓缩铀 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium...
这是制造核弹的必备条件 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb.
真是好狗运 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times.
有人向纽约时报爆了这个料 真是好狗运 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times.
他因此避开了泄密被捕的麻烦 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested...
大家只想知道纽时记者 for revealing classified information.
One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon...
是从哪里知道这些资讯的 got that information.
一年多还未抓到宾拉登 Does it bother you, bug you...
你是否为此感到困扰？ that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year?
我很想在电视上看到他被上铐 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs...
我只能这么说，我、大家都想 if I can put it into those terms.
但我并不会为此彻夜难眠 I think all of us would.
But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that.
有一派的人认为他已经死了 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead.
已经好几个月没有他的消息 We haven't heard anything of him in many months.
你认为呢？ ﹣我不知道 What do you think?
真的不知道 I don't know, I really don't know.
是死是活都有可能 I can argue it round or flat.
是有没有这么模棱两可 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth.
两派说法我都有线报 I've got sources on both sides.
但美军此时能发挥巨大作用
But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 但美军此时能发挥巨大作用
我不认为交战会太过剧烈 in this circumstance. 但美军此时能发挥巨大作用
我不认为交战会太过剧烈 in this circumstance.
And I don't think it would be that tough a fight.
所以毫无疑问 That is, I don't think there's any question...
我认为我们会占上风 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective.
并实现我们的目标 我认为我们会占上风 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective.
强纳森 Landay.
干嘛？ Yeah?
我们是对的吧？ We are right, aren't we?
各位听好 Everybody, listen up.
我们不是国家广播公司 We're not NBC.
不是ABC新闻或CBS电视网 We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
不是福斯，也不是CNN We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
我们不是纽约时报 We're not The New York Times.
不是华盛顿邮报 We're not The Washington Post.
我们是奈特里德报业 We are Knight Ridder.
我们的读者来自有军事基地的城市 We have readers who live in towns with military bases.
班宁堡、布雷格堡、杰克森堡 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson...
还有国内四十余个军事基地 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country.
如果其他新闻媒体 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers...
想当布希政府的应声虫 如果其他新闻媒体 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers...
for the Bush administration, let them. 想当布希政府的应声虫
for the Bush administration, let them.
让他们当吧 for the Bush administration, let them.
让他们当吧
我们绝不会应和 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war.
将别人的孩子送上战场的人 我们绝不会应和 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war.
将别人的孩子送上战场的人
我们为孩子被送去打仗的人发声 We write for people whose kids get sent to war.
所以，当政府表态的时候 So, when the government says something...
你们就该问一个问题 you only have one question to ask.
“这是事实吗？” Is it true?
我想好了 I'm through percolating.
上工吧 Let's get to work.
政府官员在周末节目上谈话 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows...
表示进军伊拉克势在必行 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq.
还有谁在秘密战略小组里 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning?
国防部副部长和政策次长 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
他们不听取专业的威胁评估
还有一些其他人 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 他们不听取专业的威胁评估
evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 他们不听取专业的威胁评估
evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel...
反而大量采用不可靠的情资 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel...
（纽约时报：国安顾问表示 盖达组织与伊拉克有联系） from unreliable sources and taking it... 反而大量采用不可靠的情资
（纽约时报：国安顾问表示 盖达组织与伊拉克有联系） from unreliable sources and taking it...
然后上呈到白宫 directly to the White House.
（恐攻专家表示伊拉克与此无关） 乔治泰内特，中央情报总监 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence...
告诉参议员他不排除 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation...
盖达组织和宾拉登的合作 between Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
（纽约时报：伊拉克异议人士指出 20余处武器藏匿地点） I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes.
我已经看过这些铝管的规格 （纽约时报：伊拉克异议人士指出 20余处武器藏匿地点） I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes.
（核武专家） 对浓缩铀来说它们太小了 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium.
什么意思？ What does that mean?
这无法用来制造核子弹 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb.
美国总统表示我们不允许 The President of the United States...
（专家表示伊拉克无法取得制造核武所需的材料） 各国发展大规模杀伤性武器 said we're not going to permit nations to develop...
weapons of mass destruction...
（纽约时报：严密布署 国防部坚持不懈） 因为这些武器将会被提供给 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network...
可能攻击美国的恐怖组织 of terrorism that could attack the United States.
副总统想搞掉国务卿 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell.
你从哪里知道的？ Where'd you get this stuff?
老朋友那里 Old friend.
（布希政府对伊拉克判断有误） 政府内部已有拔除海珊的共识 We're starting to see a consensus from within...
the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein.
（纽约时报：决议的时刻到了） 政府指出伊拉克情报部门 The administration has pointed...
和911劫机者曾在布拉格密会 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence...
and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta.
布希政府正在迫使联合国安理会 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations...
尽快作出向伊拉克施压的决议 Security Council for a resolution...
布希总统今天将在联合国发表谈话 to put pressure on Iraq.
President Bush will address the United Nations today...
希望组织联盟来解除海珊的武装 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition...
白宫正在游说国会授权进军伊拉克 to disarm Saddam Hussein.
The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize...
the use of force in Iraq.
这些家伙一得到看似证据的东西 The minute these guys get their hands on anything...
remotely resembling evidence...
就立刻泄漏给纽约时报 they leak it to The New York Times.
我知道你的处境 Now, I understand the position you're in...
但请先别挂我电话 but please don't hang up on me.
好 Okay.
好 Okay, the vice president of the United States...
副总统告诉海外作战退伍军人协会 好 Okay, the vice president of the United States...
went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 副总统告诉海外作战退伍军人协会
went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein...
海珊正在发展核武 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon.
接着又上电视说了一样的话 Then he goes on national television...
and says the same thing.
你的问题是？ Your question?
快问她 Ask the question.
我想知道 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring...
副总统是故意忽略 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions...
与他假设不符的精确情报 副总统是故意忽略 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions...
还是他得到的都是劣质情报？ or is he just getting bad intelligence? 与他假设不符的精确情报
还是他得到的都是劣质情报？ or is he just getting bad intelligence?
副总统在说谎 The vice president is lying.
谢谢你，太感谢了 Thank you, thank you so much.
怎么样？她说什么 What? What, what, what? What'd she say?
副总统说谎 He's lying.
他说谎，副总统说谎 - He's lying. - Cheney is lying.
副总统说谎 - Cheney's lying! - Cheney's lying!
他说谎！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
约翰！ 他说谎！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
他说谎！ 他说谎！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
约翰！ John!
他跑去哪了 Where the hell is he?
这边，这边 Here we go. Here we go.
他说谎 ﹣他说谎 - He's lying. - He's lying.
副总统说谎 Cheney's lying.
哪来的说法？ Where did this come from?
露丝纽克 Loose Nukes.
既然已经知道他们的说词 Okay.
Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside...
我们得深入调查那些会议 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion.
看看是否有其他意见 我们得深入调查那些会议 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion.
我应该有线人 I may have a guy.
我们认识吗？ Anybody we know?
我的口袋名单 The Usual Suspect.
（资深政府官员）
怎么不在停车场里讲？ You didn't want to do this in a parking garage?
停车场可没有泰式美食能享受 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would.
当死老百姓的生活如何？ How's civilian life?
我的退休生活十分短暂 My retirement lasted about four hours.
你去了奈特里德报业？ You're with Knight Ridder?
我连张办公桌都还没有 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that?
我自有方法 我连张办公桌都还没有 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that?
你是怎么知道这事的？ I have my ways. 我自有方法
你一直有在关注我们？ You been following what we're doing over there? 我自有方法
你一直有在关注我们？ You been following what we're doing over there?
是，我有 ﹣然后呢？ Yes, I have.
你们俩大概能挽救新闻自由吧 And?
You two may be singlehandedly saving...
the Fourth Estate from extinction.
主流媒体完全不鸟我们在查的事 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running.
由此可知你调查方向是对的 Should be all the confirmation you need...
that you're onto something.
我能为你做什么？ What can I do for you?
我们需要一些来自上层的情报 We need some help with the higher ups.
多上层？ How high?
越高越好 High as you can get us.
你在这行混很久了，乔 You've been around a long time, Joe.
应该没有任何事会出乎你意料 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you.
我前妻就以为新罕布夏州是麻州首都 I was married one time to a woman who thought...
New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts.
世上总有许多意想不到的事 There's always something you don't see coming.
你想知道什么？ What do you want to know?
所有政府不想让我们知道的事 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know.
看来这顿饭得吃很久了 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai.
我们要关注的是哪个时间点？ What kind of time frame are we looking at?
（国会助理） 下个月国会将投票决定 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote...
此次是否同意总统发动战争 on whether or not to give the president...
会有人同意吗？ the authorization to go to war.
政府认为有 Are the votes there?
The administration thinks so.
总统先生，三十八年前 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd...
（参议员劳勃伯德反对进军伊拉克） （2002年10月10日） 总统先生，三十八年前 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd...
我劳勃伯德 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
曾投票赞成北部湾决议案 我劳勃伯德 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
此决议授权总统 The resolution that authorized the president to use military...
以武力镇压北越武装 此决议授权总统 The resolution that authorized the president to use military...
以武力镇压北越武装
force to repel armed attacks... 以武力镇压北越武装
防止共产主义进一步侵略东南亚 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 以武力镇压北越武装
防止共产主义进一步侵略东南亚 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia.
针对我国是否以武力对抗伊拉克 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States...
armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close.
现将进行决议 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close.
交由司仪唱票 The clerk will call the roll. 现将进行决议
交由司仪唱票 The clerk will call the roll.
拜登先生赞成、柯林顿太太赞成 Mr. Biden, aye.
Mrs. Clinton, aye.
正是这个决议 It was this resolution that provided the basis...
为美国参与越战打下基础 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam.
柯瑞先生赞成、莱柏曼赞成 Mr. Kerry, aye.
Mr. Lieberman, aye.
洛特先生赞成 Mr. Lott, aye.
正是这个决议 It was this resolution...
让5万8千名美国军人丧命 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans.
麦坎先生赞成、麦康诺先生赞成 Mr. McCain, aye.
Mr. McConnell, aye.
这些伤亡让我们认清 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting...
这个北部湾决议案 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution...
我们的投票建立于不良的情报上 we were basing our votes on bad information.
而历史正在重演 And history is repeating itself.
桑托伦先生赞成 Mr. Santorum, aye.
我期盼参议员们走出国会 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall...
到越战纪念碑去看一看 and look at the Vietnam Memorial.
几乎每一天你都能看到 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall...
有人在为逝去的挚爱哀悼 weeping for a loved one.
赛逊先生赞成 Mr. Sessions, aye.
我永远记得韦恩摩士参议员说的 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse.
史贝克先生赞成 Mr. Specter, aye.
“表决通过后，投下赞成票的人” He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators...
“将终其一生为此后悔” "who vote for it will live to regret it."
我们有匿名线报和情报员的说词 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source.
不需要其他消息来源 You know we got this.
你要指控的可是国防部长 不需要其他消息来源 You know we got this.
明明已经可以上了 ﹣听着 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 你要指控的可是国防部长
明明已经可以上了 ﹣听着 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense...
在五角大厦外运作一个秘密组织 of running a shadow intelligence unit...
有点保险总是比较好 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance.
我要说的只是这样而已 That's all I'm saying.
好吧，把报导发给集团报社吧 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class.
你要告诉他们吗？ You want to tell them?
今早，我被传唤到五角大厦 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon.
谁传唤你？ By whom?
国防部长，那个老油条说 Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick sent a message saying...
“你的线人都是些退役将军” "All your sources are retired generals."
我回答，恕我直言 And I said, "All due respect, sir...
我的内线有八成是现役军人 "80% of my sources are active military."
有的人在这栋楼里工作 "Some of them are working in this building...
有的人甚至是你的手下 "and some of them are actually working on your staff."
噢，还有一两个可能在这房间里呢 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room."
房里真的有线人？ Did you actually have sources in the room?
没有 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church.
但我爽看他们被唬住的表情 没有 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church.
但我爽看他们被唬住的表情
关于那个秘密战略小组 How close are we to getting something we can run with
我们有多少可靠材料？ on the Office of Special Plans?
我们有… Well, we already got...
我们还得再多确认几条线报 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources.
手上有的出了什么问题？ What's wrong with the sources you have?
我们只是想要更肯定 Well, we just want to be certain.
你们要报导的东西可是很大条的 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts.
好好干吧，孩子们 Let's just move on this, okay, boys?
你什么时候忙完？ When are you gonna be finished?
Just a few more minutes, baby.
再一下下，亲爱的 Just a few more minutes, baby.
我睡不着，荧幕太亮了 I can't sleep with the computer light on.
其实，我写完了 Actually, I'm done.
你在忙什么？ So, what are you working on?
国防部长有个秘密情报小组 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going...
不受控于中情局 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war.
专门处理这次战争 不受控于中情局 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war.
搞什么？强纳森 What the fuck, Jonathan?
怎么了？ What?
你有在电话上说过这事吗 Have you been talking about this on the phone?
有啊，怎么了吗 Yeah, of course.
So, what?
他们会监听你 - They will hear you. - Vlatka.
亲爱的 他们会监听你 - They will hear you. - Vlatka.
你在追查情报组织的内哄 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies.
所以呢 So?
他们是情报组织，强纳森 They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
他们监控你的电话和信件 They listen to your calls, they read your emails.
说不定监听我们家 They probably bugged this house.
你太夸张了 You're being paranoid.
你太天真了 You're being naive.
这里不是南斯拉夫，是美国 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America.
美国变了 America has changed.
战争是笔大生意 War is big business for them.
你要是阻挠，他们就会除掉你 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you.
亲爱的，你太夸张了 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on.
过来 Don't you get it?
你还不懂吗？ 过来 Don't you get it?
你还不知道他们的能耐吗 You know what these people are capable of?
你有家庭！ You have a family!
亲爱的 Vlatka. Vlatka!
薇拉卡！ 亲爱的 Vlatka. Vlatka!
薇拉卡！
你看起来很惨，怎么了 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter?
薇拉卡害我整晚没睡 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
好喔 All right!
别想歪，是在讲阴谋论 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories.
什么阴谋论？ About what?
她觉得政府会监听我们 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us.
这真的很扯 I mean, it's ridiculous.
收一下信 Check your email.
（去死吧！你这卖国贼）
约翰，快看看这个 John, you got to see this.
等一下 Oh, hold on a second.
我实在不想再讨论这件事 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again.
他挂我电话 He hung up. What is it?
怎么了？ 他挂我电话 He hung up. What is it?
我们该怎么办？ What do we do?
（叛国贼）
你好孬 ﹣你才是 - You're such a wuss. - You're a wuss.
你最孬 ﹣闭嘴 You're a much bigger wuss.
别说了，幼稚死了 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child.
你简直是… ﹣闭嘴啦 - You're being a... - Shut up!
今日联合国安理会决议 Today's UN Security Council resolution...
可用四字总结：时间紧迫 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking.
布希总统今日清楚表示 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush...
伊拉克不愿放弃军事武装 made clear today, is of military confrontation.
解除伊拉克武装的行动将展开 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction...
by Iraq will occur.
唯一的问题是伊拉克政府 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how.
会选择如何结束 唯一的问题是伊拉克政府 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how.
会选择如何结束
（国防部成立情报组织）
该死 Son of a bitch.
他们抢先一步 They beat us.
但他们刻意避开组织的内幕 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up.
不重要了，他们已经报了 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop.
什么头条？ With what?
他们没写选择性取用情报的事 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence.
也没写他们独立运作于其他单位 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies.
我们还是可以报导我们的 We can still run ours.
强纳森，没人会在意二手追踪报导 John, no one's gonna pay attention...
to a second story explaining all that.
本来是我们的 We had it.
可恶，约翰一定会气炸 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed.
他可能还没发现 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
他怎么整天都不来找我们？ How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day?
他对我们无话可说了 He's giving us the silent treatment.
靠，他来了 Oh, shit, here he comes.
天啊 Oh, Jesus.
这本来是你们的报导 You had the story.
别忘了被打败的感觉 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat.
国会的情报来源是内阁 The only information Congress is getting...
is coming directly from the administration.
伊拉克国土跟法国差不多大 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France...
他们想藏匿大规模杀伤性武器 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction...
绝对是办得到的 they're going to be able to do so.
他们不会质疑自己的立场 They're not going to rethink their positions...
除非他们得到其他情报 unless they are provided with independent intel.
没有人希望看到战争 No one who's supported the authorization for war...
在国会、在伊拉克都是 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president...
他绝不是个想开战就开战的总统 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war.
国防部长洗脑大家说 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi...
伊拉克从99年起一直庇护宾拉登 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99.
如果那是真的 Yeah.
Well, if that offer actually had happened...
宾拉登早就反客为主干掉海珊了 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself.
伊拉克表示并未拥有及发展核武 What do you make of the statement made...
by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons...
您如何看待？ of mass destruction and is not developing?
他们说谎 They're lying.
下一个问题 Next.
你女儿真漂亮 Your daughter is lovely.
真希望是遗传到我，但她像妈妈 Well, I wish I could take credit.
She gets it from her mother.
要喝点什么吗，爸？ Dad, can I get you anything?
不用谢谢，亲爱的 - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. - Mr. Strobel?
那您呢？ - I'm fine. - All right.
不用了 ﹣好的 那您呢？ - I'm fine. - All right.
只是即兴演出 Just real casual.
我跟汤姆正好在讨论你们的报导 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article.
是吗？ Oh, yeah?
看来你们不相信政治人物 Seems like you don't trust politicians.
这是身为记者的基本条件 Well, that's a pretty solid rule of journalism.
就算他们讲的是战争？ Even when they're talking about war?
尤其是他们讲的是战争 Especially when they're talking about war.
你认为没有大规模毁灭性武器？ You really believe there's no WMD?
我们的立场已经很清楚了 Our names are on the article.
他们不是说没有武器 They don't say that there's no WMD.
他们是说政府没拿出证据 They just said that the administration...
hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
难道你认为政府找不到证据吗 And you don't think they'll find any?
对，我认为找不到 No, I don't.
你怎么知道 You don't know that.
我是不知道 No, we don't.
但在把孩子们送去打仗前 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths...
你不觉得政府有义务证明吗 don't you think the administration...
has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale?
万一证据就是核弹直接炸过来呢 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud?
好吧，你一定看了福斯新闻 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again?
国安顾问、副总统 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing.
和布希总统的说法一致 国安顾问、副总统 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing.
是喔，那就是事实了吗 Oh, well, then it must be true.
你们太年轻了 You kids are too young to remember...
根本不记得62年的核武威胁 你们太年轻了 You kids are too young to remember...
how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 根本不记得62年的核武威胁
how close we came to nuclear war in '62.
华恩，你出生的那天 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day...
就是甘迺迪宣布封锁古巴的日子 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba.
当时我们最大的敌人 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons...
要在我们的外海布署核弹 90 miles off our coast.
甘迺迪必须强硬起来 The president had to demonstrate strength.
隔天他派人前往联合国 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
提供核弹的证据 to offer proof that the missiles existed.
这可不是只有福斯报导 It's not just Fox News.
华盛顿邮报、纽约时报都有 It's the Washington Post. It's The New York Times.
拜托，各大媒体都有证据 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet...
in the country, except yours.
除了你的报导 in the country, except yours.
除了你的报导
好吧 Okay.
Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me.
我忘了拿面包，失陪一下 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me.
我要去喝一杯 I'm going to grab a beer.
天啊，爸 Jesus, Dad.
你还好吗，兄弟？ ﹣嗯 Are you okay, bro?
Yeah.
我们是好记者吗？ Are we good reporters?
什么？ What?
我是说 I mean, are we doing anything...
我们不就是在实践新闻理念吗？ other than practicing good journalism?
我们做的就是该做的事 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed...
但为何只有我们在追这些真相？ Then, why the fuck are we the only ones...
running these fucking stories?!
他只是想在你们更进一步之前 He just wanted you to see all sides to him...
展现出自己的真面目 before you take it to the next level.
近三个月前 Almost three months ago, the United Nations...
（国情咨文） 联合国安全理事会 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein...
给了海珊最后一次机会缴械 his final chance to disarm.
我们的情报单位也评估认为 Our intelligence officials estimate...
海珊拥有发展核武的设备… that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce...
让联合国检查武器有什么意义？ What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections...
布希政府早就打算彻底忽略真相 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results?
当你想创造另一个版本的真相时 Well, when you're creating your own reality...
很容易会忽略掉事实 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts.
所以呢？ And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient...
主流媒体就懒得就调查事实了吗 所以呢？ And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient...
for the mainstream media at this point? 主流媒体就懒得就调查事实了吗
for the mainstream media at this point?
当媒体变成营利工具时… When news is a profit center...
情报就是金钱 Access becomes currency.
没错 Exactly.
我以你为荣，约翰 I'm proud of you, John.
怎么说？ Why?
你临危不乱，这是场硬仗 For not wavering.
也没有那么硬 It's got to be tough.
It's not that tough.
我很清楚我们和他们的不同 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are.
“伊拉克反海珊人士与布希谈话后” "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush...
“对后海珊时代感到放心” "About the Post-Hussein Era."
纽约时报朱迪思米勒 By Judith Miller.
为了扣伊拉克的帽子 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller...
她连算命师的鬼话都能引用吧 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD.
我们得深入分析已经解密的情资 We gotta dig into the declassified...
看看还有没有料可挖 national intelligence estimate...
and find out if there are any gems in there.
好，我倒想看看他们窜改了什么 Yeah, I'd love to see...
what they redacted from the classified version.
你们跟查拉比联系上了吗 Oh, what's going on with Chalabi?
正在尝试 We're on it.
我会盯着我的国务卿前老板 I'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss.
有种预感会出事 ﹣是啊 - I got a feeling. - Yeah...
科林鲍威尔可能是最后防线 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war.
是啊 Yeah.
（美国坚持解除伊拉克武装）
（反海珊人士强化美国立场）
该死 Goddamn it!
可恶！ Fuck!
市长决定筹资晚会日期了吗 Angela, did the mayor set a date...
亚瑟，我完全搞错了 for the fundraiser yet?
Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong.
你的脑子竟然不是长在屁屁上耶 Your head isn't literally up your ass.
很高兴见到你 It's always a pleasure to see you, John...
但可以先在外面等吗 but would you please wait outside?
彻底忽略我们的报导已经够糟了 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work...
但跟进纽约时报那套狗屁 but the fact that you're running these bullshit...
实在太超过 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable.
别在这说行吗，约翰？ Not in here, John. Okay, please?
到办公室说 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me.
不好意思 到办公室说 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me.
天啊 Jesus.
就算你很难接受 Look, as painful as this might seem...
但我没义务回应你，约翰 I don't answer to you, John.
对，你就是占着茅坑不拉屎 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job.
我只需要对读者负责 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers.
我们的读者是爱国人士 They're citizens who are patriots...
还有支持国军的民众 they're citizens who support our troops.
那你怎么还能刊那些东西？ And how do you do that, Arthur?
跟纽约时报同声一气？ By going down on The New York Times?
我没空跟你吵 ﹣对，你没空 I don't have time for this.
你没空 No, you don't have time.
知道吗，总有一天 You don't have time.
纽约时报会跟读者道歉 You know, one day, The New York Times...
is going to apologize to its readers.
等到那天，你会自己写道歉函吗 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology?
还是照抄他们的道歉启事？ Or are you just going to run theirs?
慢走不送，约翰 Have a nice day, John.
伊拉克战争似乎越来越无可避免 It is beginning to look more and more as though...
war with Iraq is inevitable.
与伊拉克的摊牌 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech...
以及国务卿鲍威尔将发表的谈话 by Secretary of State Colin Powell...
让各国距离开战又更近一步 that could move the world closer to war.
国军目前正在等待进攻指示 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait...
for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports...
根据记者在科威特美军营地报导 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports...
真让人泄气 That's so frustrating.
我不知道能否完成你在做的事 I don't know that I could do what you do.
有次我想挑战全国最长健行路线 You know, I once got it in my head...
that I should hike the Appalachian Trail.
觉得那是很好的自我挑战 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself.
但当我看到地图上那条路超长 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles.
我就觉得 I realized...
感觉像要走一辈子？ ﹣对 That it would take a lifetime?
Yeah.
我们可以一起走 Or we could walk it together.
一言为定 I'm gonna hold you to that.
目前全球 Worldwide resistance is mounting...
全球反对美国开战声浪四起 against America's military intervention into Iraq.
从美国到欧洲及中东 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East...
示威者走上街头 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition...
抗议美国进军伊拉克 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq.
（伊拉克国民大会办公室）
两位先生，你们好 ﹣你好 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do?
我是因特法坎巴，请跟我来 - Hello. - I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
- Hi. - Now, please, follow me.
这家伙是谁啊？ Who's this dude?
外送小弟，不盖你 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding.
查拉比主席 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay...
这两位是奈特里德报业记者 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News.
欢迎两位 Gentlemen, welcome.
（艾哈迈德查拉比，伊拉克国民大会创办人） Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us.
感谢你终于同意会面 （艾哈迈德查拉比，伊拉克国民大会创办人） Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us.
我太忙了 I've been very busy.
忙着接受其他媒体访问 Talking to our competitors.
我接受所有媒体访问 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me.
毕竟我没什么好隐瞒的 After all, I have nothing to hide...
至少比海珊诚实多了 which is more than I can say for Saddam.
既然你都提到他了 Okay, well, since you brought him up...
我们可以来谈谈他的武器 I thought we might talk about what...
还有他是如何藏匿武器的 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them.
他确实有武器并藏匿它们 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know.
据我所知 他确实有武器并藏匿它们 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know.
你怎么知道的？ Right, and you know that how?
我知道所有发生在我国家的事 I know everything that's happening in my country.
即使过去十年你人不在伊拉克？ Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade?
我虽被放逐，但仍是伊拉克人 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi.
我想我同事的问题是 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make...
身为海珊敌人又遭放逐 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile...
你如何获取重要资讯？ have access to such valuable information?
我与异议人士的情报单位有联系 I maintain close relationships...
with dissident intelligence sources.
我们能核查吗？ Is there a way we can verify that?
不能 No.
这对我们来说行不通 See, that's kind of a problem for us...
我们不能写一篇… because we can't write a story...
我要的跟美国一样 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq.
一个自由民主的伊拉克 我要的跟美国一样 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq.
并由你来执政？ With you as its leader?
若伊拉克人民希望的话 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes.
我希望有机会重建我的国家 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country...
就像曼德拉为南非做的 the way Mandela did in South Africa.
曼德拉可没叫美国攻打南非 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country.
他没在对抗恐怖分子 He wasn't fighting terrorists.
恕我直言 With all due respect, that's where the red flags...
这是我们开始觉得有问题的地方 start to go up for us.
你认为我为了私利制造假消息吗 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative...
for my own pursuits?
除了私利还能有什么其他原因 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative?
我没有说谎！ I don't lie!
海珊拥有移动生化武器实验室 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical...
and biological weapons labs.
他有核武计划 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists.
还与恐怖分子密切联系 他有核武计划 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists.
还与恐怖分子密切联系
如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 还与恐怖分子密切联系
如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other...
就去问其他异议人士 如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other...
听听他们怎么说 defectors and hear what they say. 就去问其他异议人士
听听他们怎么说 defectors and hear what they say.
他们会告诉你一模一样的话 They will all tell you the same thing.
他们的资讯来源不就是你吗 Don't they all get their information from you?
我不想跟你们见面的原因 If you were wondering why it took so long for me...
to meet with you, it's this smug attitude.
大概就是你这臭跩的态度 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude.
你们根本不想报导我的立场 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said.
你要记者当你的啦啦队吗？ Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders?
好吧，我们该走了 All right, I think we should go.
感谢你拨空 Thank you for your time.
可想而知为何没人读你们的报导 Now I see why no one reads anything you write.
我倡导推翻独裁者 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator...
解放伊拉克 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally...
让伊拉克成为美国、以色列 解放伊拉克 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally...
to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 让伊拉克成为美国、以色列
to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world.
和西方世界的盟友 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world.
推翻海珊后这一切就能达成吗 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone?
走吧，强纳森 All right, come on, Landay.
不，他说要世界大同 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off...
但他没说怎么做到 but he doesn't say how.
推翻海珊伊拉克不会陷入内战吗 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein...
not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war?
你总得讲出一番道理啊 Tell us something that makes sense...
你讲得出来，我们马上就报导 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today.
你讲不出来！ You can't!
因为你根本不知接下来会如何 Because you have no idea what happens next.
没人会知道！ ﹣强纳森 - And neither does anyone else. - John. John!
我宁愿回去写高中作文 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper...
也不帮你写狗屁洗脑文给读者看 than to be used by you...
to sell the American public your bullshit.
好了 All right.
对了，我们是奈特里德报业 By the way, it's Knight Ridder.
国务卿鲍威尔将在电视转播中 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case...
against Iraq in a nationally televised address...
向安理会提出对伊拉克的指控 against Iraq in a nationally televised address...
to the UN Security Council. 向安理会提出对伊拉克的指控
to the UN Security Council.
看来他们又更进一步了 Looks like they're bringing in the closer.
国务卿先生 Mr. Secretary, are you confident...
您是否有信心能提案成功？ you will make your case, sir?
看了就知道 You'll see.
我们是为谁辛苦为谁忙啊？ What the hell game have we've been playing?
我们做的事连屁都称不上 All we did is piss into the wind.
我们尽力了 We did our jobs.
我真不该干记者 I should never have become a reporter.
都怪揭穿水门案的两个前辈 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein.
尼克森最糟的作为 They took down a president whose biggest crime...
是掩盖自己肮脏的政治手段 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks.
而现任总统则将作出史上最糟的决策 This president's about to do the worst thing any president...
而且还可能连任 could do and he'll probably get re-elected.
敬亲身试验民主 To the democratic experiment.
谢谢你，总统先生 Thank you, Mr. President.
（联合国，2003年2月5日） 各位同仁，我今日所言 My colleagues, every statement I make today...
都其来有自，铁证如山 is backed up by sources, solid sources.
此刻事态严重 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity...
伊拉克正以毁灭性武器威胁全球 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction...
pose to the world.
那是场骗局，一切都是骗局 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up.
情报总监寄给鲍威尔一堆资料 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high...
用来支持进军伊拉克 that supported the invasion.
海珊执意发展核武 Saddam Hussein is determined...
to get his hands on a nuclear bomb.
而副总统派他的手下 Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
在资料中加入三项论点 to push three main arguments in those files.
第一，海珊侵犯人权 One: Saddam's human rights abuses...
大家早就知道了 which everybody knew about.
第二，他与盖达组织有关 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell...
鲍威尔直接忽略 of course, threw right in the trash.
第三点跟毁灭性武器有关 And the third focused on Iraq's WMD.
不能让海珊长期坐拥毁灭性武器 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons...
of mass destruction for a few more months or years...
is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world.
尤其在发生911事件之后 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world.
四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 尤其在发生911事件之后
四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer...
鲍威尔叫每个情报局官员 四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer...
鲍威尔叫每个情报局官员
来替他们所谓的证据背书 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 鲍威尔叫每个情报局官员
来替他们所谓的证据背书 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files.
有80%证据都被他扔了 He threw out 80% of them.
四天过后 At the end of the four days...
鲍威尔去找中央情报总监 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said...
对他说，“乔治” "George, can we stand by every word of this?"
“剩下的这些都是可信的吗？” 对他说，“乔治” "George, can we stand by every word of this?"
中央情报总监回答 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you."
“铁证如山，我保证” 中央情报总监回答 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you."
鲍威尔于是说 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. “铁证如山，我保证”
鲍威尔于是说 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George.
“干得好，很高兴你这么说” "I'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be...
“我对全世界发表证据时” "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world."
“你得当我的后盾” “我对全世界发表证据时” "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world."
我们不应该将责任 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... “你得当我的后盾”
我们不应该将责任 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility...
推卸给由我所代表的国家公民 to the citizens of the countries...
that are represented by this body.
鲍威尔以一挡百 Colin took one for the team.
果然是个好将军 Always the good soldier.
伊拉克是否已无条件解除武装？ Has the Iraqi regime fully...
and unconditionally disarmed?
唯一可接受的结果即是 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined...
安理会一致投票通过的结果 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council.
彻底解除武装 Total disarmament.
英国、西班牙和我国 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced..
共同提出一项新决议 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet...
即控诉伊拉克未依约解除武装 共同提出一项新决议 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet...
即控诉伊拉克未依约解除武装
the requirements of Resolution 1441. 即控诉伊拉克未依约解除武装
the requirements of Resolution 1441.
这是无法辩驳的事实 This is a fact, it cannot be denied.
（2003年3月6日） 何不对海珊下达最后通牒？ And what harm would it do to give...
Saddam a final ultimatum?
给他两三天期限再进攻 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force?
911事件就我而言改变了… September the 11th changed the strategic thinking...
如何保护国家的战略思维 at least as far as I was concerned...
for how to protect our country.
我的责任是保护美国人民 My job is to protect the American people.
以前我们认为可以容忍海珊 Used to be that we could think that you could contain...
a person like Saddam Hussein...
以为隔着大海他就无法威胁我们 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror.
911事件让美国人知道… September the 11th should say to the American people...
喂？ Hello?
你得打包出发了 You need to pack your bags.
好吧 Right.
恐怖组织的魔爪已深入家园 In the hands of a terrorist organization...
could be deployed here at home.
约翰金 King, John King. This is a scripted...
这是内定的 约翰金 King, John King. This is a scripted...
谢谢，总统先生 Thank you, Mr. President.
请问您如何回应某些人的疑虑 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they...
他们认为这场战争是私怨 They think this is somehow personal?
有参议员认为 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight...
您对海珊的执念造成世界大乱 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein...
is making the world a more dangerous place.
您告知人民可能将发生战争 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility...
能否也告诉我们您内阁的分析 of military conflict, could you share with us...
any of the scenarios your advisors have shared...
战争所引发最坏的状况是什么 with you about worst-case scenarios?
你要确保… You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there.
这个国家的人知道真相 你要确保… You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there.
这个国家的人知道真相
好吗？ ﹣我会的 - Yeah? - I will.
我发誓要保卫国家 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution.
他拥有并使用毁灭性武器 He has weapons of mass destruction...
and he has used weapons of mass destruction.
他曾资助类似盖达的恐怖组织 He has trained and financed...
al Qaeda-type organizations before.
我严肃地看待恐怖威胁 I take the threat seriously, and I'll deal with the threat.
我会与之周旋 I hope it can be done peacefully.
当然我希望能和平落幕 我会与之周旋 I hope it can be done peacefully.
他们痛恨我们的理念 They hate what we stand for.
我们是自由国家，这不会改变 We love freedom, and we're not changing.
总统先生，美国人民都记得 Mr. President, millions of Americans can...
当年领导人们都赞成介入越战 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country..
on a mission of regime change in Vietnam.
五万美国人为此丧命 50,000 Americans died.
现今越共仍然掌控越南 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...
但自越战结束三十年来 or threatened a single American in 30 years...
丝毫没有威胁到美国 since the war ended.
请问您是否能向越战军人的子女保证 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters...
of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that...
他们不会在伊拉克战争中 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq?
遭逢与当年类似的下场？ 他们不会在伊拉克战争中 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq?
这是个好问题 That's a great question.
我深知任何军事行动都有风险 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation.
他根本没当过兵还能天花乱坠 I know that.
It's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got...
while not serving in the National Guard.
但我们的目标很明确 But it's very clear what we intend to do.
我们的任务不会改变 And our mission won't change.
这可能持续六天或六周 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks...
但不会是六个月 I doubt six months.
这很花钱 There's a lot of money to pay for this...
但不一定要花纳税人的钱 that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money.
这个国家能负担得起重建 We're dealing with a country that can really finance...
（保罗伍佛维兹，国防副部长） 而且过程会非常快 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.
他何时会取得核武是有些争议 There will always be some uncertainty...
about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons...
但我们可不希望被炸 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
你认为美国人是否已准备好 Do you think the America people...
面对漫长、高代价、血腥 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle...
和伤亡惨重的战争？ with significant American casualties?
我不认为会那样发展 I don't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim...
我认为我们会被视为解放者 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators.
战争开始的六周后 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President...
总统将在航空母舰上发表演说 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech...
on a carrier in the Pacific.
亲爱的美国人民 My fellow Americans, major combat operations...
伊拉克主要作战行动已经结束 in Iraq have ended.
在伊拉克战争中 In the battle of Iraq, the United States...
美国和盟友们取得胜利 and our allies have prevailed.
（任务完成）
我想过去那边 I want to go down there.
他们是第一批赴死的人 They were the first to die.
你也有去打越战吗？ Were you there?
谢谢你 Thank you.
也谢谢你，孩子 Thank you, son.
人们终于明白
在战争发生的18个月前
强纳森兰德、华恩史卓柏
乔盖洛威和约翰沃克特
所报导的都是真相
纽约时报最终向读者道歉
死伤的数字持续增加
17年，军队仍在作战
目前正在未开发地区对抗ISIS
两兆，战争所有的花费
超过3万6千，美军死伤人数
一百万，伊拉克死与于战争人数
0，并未找到毁灭性武器
强纳森，身为在追求真相过程中 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore...
to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact?
唯一坚持不懈的人，感觉如何？ to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact?
（华恩史卓柏，强纳森兰德） 很孤单，而且最讽刺的是 It was very lonely and what made it actually one...
每次我们做了报导 of the ironies is...
that every time we would write something...
白宫都不回应 the White House would say nothing, because we realized...
因为那就会变成我们最好的广告 after a while that that would have been the best...
我们求之不得 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for.
华盛顿的新闻情报一向很有问题 There's a problem with journalism...
纽约时报和其他媒体 in Washington, which is access.
And The New York Times and others had access to the top...
则都被政府官员洗脑 officials who were spinning this line.
我们也访问过那些人 We talked to those people, as well...
但大多数消息来源还是 but most of our reporting, Christiane...
探员、军人和中阶外交官 was with intelligence, military...
低阶吧？ ﹣低阶 and diplomatic mid-level...
记者大多不会找上这些人 - Lower level? - Lower level.
The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after.
我也想给我老板一些功劳 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man...
约翰沃科特 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott.
（I.F.新闻独立奖，2008年7月24日） 更高层次的文明世界 Higher levels of civilization...
（约翰沃科特） 必须更加注重和尊重… must depend even more heavily...
on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty...
报导真相的诚实和明确性 on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty...
and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 报导真相的诚实和明确性
and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn...
以及记者对于挖掘真相的执着 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are.
（乔盖洛威） 我们必须找到报导世事的方法 We need to find some way to cover the world so that...
好让人们知道世上发生什么事 we know what's happening out there...
好让人们知道真相 that we know the truth about it...
这样才能避免错误 so we can avoid mistakes...
就像伊拉克战争… mistakes like Iraq.
情报就是情报 The intelligence was what it was.
（朱迪思米勒，《报导》作者） 像我这样的人是无法捏造情报的 You know, people like me couldn't make it up.
情报并非只是情报 The intelligence wasn't what it was...
也并非所有人都误用它 and not everybody got it wrong.
大家都误用了情报 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder.
除了奈特里德报业 大家都误用了情报 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder.